Exam 1 Flashcards
What happens in the intro of the Symposium?
Platos writing is a retelling of Agathons Party by Apollodorus to a friend; Apollodorus was told about the party through Aristodemus who was actually there
What is the Symposium about?
the whole dialogue is to reach the question of “What is Love?”
How are Platos writings/stories done?
Platos writings are not historical (they are slightly fictional); Plato used real people (such as Socrates) as characters that he used in his dialogue
Socrates
did QnA’s to find answers; looked for progress not final answers; famous for not knowing anything
Socratic Wisdom
socratic ignorance; knowing when you do not know
What does Apollodorus and Aristodemus seem to confuse the love of philosophy with?
love of Socrates; they are confusing their love for philosophy with Socrates because he helped teach tehm
Agathon invites Socrates to sit next to him so that Socrates may touch him and give him his wisdom…how does Socrates respond?
that Agathon is wise and wishes that he would gain some of Agathons wisdom; socrates says that we can not transfer wisdom, we must do the searching for ourselves
Phaedruses Speech
if you are in love you are more likely to be a virtuous person; praises love and its effects on us; inspires courageous acts and honor; the Lover is closer to godlike that the beloved; boy love and women love is vulgar
Palseneus Speech
goes into benefits and dangers of love;vulgar love can lead to ruin;honorable love can lead to honor and courage; critcizes older man and boy lover system; two gods of love and two kinds of love (harmful and hurtful); love is not good or bad it depends on how its used/goal; misogny elements; noble vs. common love; only virtue makes love acceptable we need to be virtuous first to be able to properly love
Eryximachis Speech
music, nature, etc all display the distinction pausanias made; base just means chaotic, unstable, noble means stabilized, organized; says love is involved with everything including physics; harmony is noble love, stabilized; vulgar love would be unorganized, disharmony
Aristophanes Speech
originally 3 genders (male, female, androgynous) they got cut in half by Zeus and we now seek our other half; love requires sense of lack and sense of connection; we cannot point to something that drives us: its not something we can see (because we split so long ago); we want to become one again and we look for our other halves; uses it to explain homosexual and heterosexual
Agathons Speech
Agathons name means “the good man” he is young, attractive, etc; Agathon uses a method for his speech: do not praise effects of X before understanding what X is; uses flowery language and does not really say a whole lot; says love is all the things Agathon is young, attractive, the best; says love possess everything that is beautiful and good
Dialectic
conversation in which parties are all interested in discovering the truth and conduct a search for truth
What is dialectics not?
apologetics and eristics
Apologetics
a conversation in which one partner or group, X, tries to persuade the other, Y, of something X already firmly believes is true
Eristics
a conversation in which one partner or group, X, tries to defeat another partner or group, Y, by using any method available in disregard of the truth
What are the commitments that Agathon makes about love?
love is beautiful and in no way ugly; love is love of Something, call it X; Love is a type of desire for X
What does Diotima teach Socrates?
somethings are not completely beautiful are also not fully ugly; non-knowledge is not full ignorance; some non-gods (non-mortals) are not fully mortal
What is Diotima’s theory of love?
love is always after the beautful; if love is not perfect beauty it can still be beautiful by participation; love is always chasing beauty; love is beautiful by participation in going after the beauty
Double Ignorance
someone who is ignorant and does not realize they are ignorant
Diotimas Ladder of Love
1) desire to renew the presence of bodily goods forever such as the physical drive to reproduce; 2) desire to renew the presence of psychical goods forever ex 1) lower types- artworks, political movements, constitutions ex2) higher types-monumental discoveries of timeless truths; 3) the final mystery is even greater
The Gist of Diotimas Speech
love is after eternal goodness; it drives us to seek a beauty within which to reproduce ourselves and our cultures; moving us up the ladder to the highest beauty itself without body or death
Gist of Alcibiades
the flamboyant comic relief and alternative to Socrates and Diotima; love is about passion and bodily attachment
ADD SOME BETTER CARDS
What are some of the main point of a Epicurean life?
happiest life is a minimalist life; do what you need to do to stay alive and have a stable/good mental state; minimize pain maximize pleasure