Evil and Suffering Flashcards
Natural Evil
The Flood/ Plagues (bad)
Jesus Feed 500 (good)
most difficult to accept
why does God not control nature?
Can the FWD account for Natural Evil?
Natural forces inevitable
If God intervened - conscious of creator
freedom developed if God doesn’t
Moral Evil
Will - bad consequences
‘inaction’
Rwandan genocide 500,000 +
Rabbi Greenberg - “No theological statement…should be made that would not be credible in the presence of burning children.”
Logical problem of evil
Logic imposs coexistence God and evil
Epicurus “is god willing but not able?” Inconsistent T
Can - deny omnipotence - worthy?
Can - deny benevolence - God love NT
Can - Deny evil - not acceptable
Evidential problem of evil
Theists/Atheists agree evil exists
Quality + Quantity - overwhelming (CT doesn’t work)
John Stuart Mill - God doesn’t exist or is cruel
Rowe - pointless evil (fawn)
Christian FWD
God justified allowing evil for humans to prefer good
develop qualities - compassion
problem - pain develop bad qualities
Mackie and the FWD
FW and God an illusion if evil not allowed
“act freely yet always go right?” - no frame ref good
Plantinga and the FWD
“any world in which God exist…enormously more valuable”
mackie logically incomplete
DEFENSE
world w/o evil - wouldnt think evil - not free
Plantinga Quote
“best possible world contains God…also…evil”
Ireanean Theodicy
God - imperfect world
humans develop from Image to likeness of God
pain makes us perfect
SOUL MAKING
Augustinian Theodicy
God - perfect world
God’s creation ruined by human sin
We were seminaly present Adam
punishment - Adam and Eve “be like God, knowing good and evil”
SOUL DECIDING
Criticisms of Ireaneas
Suffering doesn’t always have postive development (Rowe)
Quality and quantity?
D.Z Philips - love never by allowed by suffering
Criticisms of Augustine
Schleiermacher - World perfect - wouldn’t go wrong
Evil must have existed to be chosen
Survival of fittest good
God is unjust
What is John Hick’s development of Irenaean Theodicy? pt.1
If God made humans perfect - “goodness of robots”
Epistemically distance humans not overwhelmed
God allows to choose FW
John Hick Ireanaean Theodicy pt.2
Evil allows humans develop
Counter factual hypothesis if interfered
The perfect world is to look forward to
Both - universal salvation/ Soul Making