Elizabethan to Neoclassicism? Flashcards
About apology for poetry?
- Sir Philip Sydney is considered as a true “Renaissance Man” as he had all the characteristics of an ideal one. Apart from being a poet and an essayist, he was a military man and a statesmen.
- His An Apology for Poetry came as a response to an essay entitled The School of Abuse published in 1579 by a Puritan minister, Stephen Gosson, which attempted to reject poetry as it is limited to the aristocrats.
Gosson’s attack on poetry?
Gosson’s Attack on Poetry
• According to Gosson.
• 1) People can use their time more effectively than in poetry,
• 2) It is the mother of lies,
• 3) it is the nurse of abuse,
• 4) Plato was right to remove poets from his republic.
What does Sidney means by Poetry is the first light giver to ignorance,”
- Musaeus, Homer and Hesiod belonged to science, but were also poets.
- And the first Greek philosophers Thales, Empedocles, Parmenides, and Pythagoras, used verse to express their philosophy.
- Plato also used dialogue and description of situations, which are poetic devices, in order to spread his philosophy.
- Again, historians such as Herodotus have borrowed the “fashion” and the “weight” of poetry.
- In Roman, poets were called vates, meaning “diviner, foreseer, or prophet, so poets were given a heavenly title.
- If we consider Psalms of David as a “divine poem,” it is nothing but Songs in verse written in meter.
- Therefore Poetry shouldn’t be termed as “ridiculous an estimation” into which it has lapsed, and it doesn’t deserve to be scourged out of the Church of God”
- Sidney reminds the reader that the Greek origin of the English word “poet” was the word poiein, meaning “to make”.
- Whether it is an astronomer looking at the star to find out what order has nature created, geometrician and arithmetician examine quantities as ordered in nature; the natural philosopher examines physical nature, and the moral philosopher considers the natural virtues and vices, grammarians speak about the rules, physicians weighs the nature of a man’s body.
- However, it’s only the poet who has his/her own invention and transcends nature. They are not dependent on nature. They make things even better than nature.
Why did Sidney say that There are no other kind of knowledge more fruitful than poetry
- Oratio and ratio: Speech and reason are the greatest gifts given to human beings.
- Poetry sharpens the gift of speech and it is much greater than prose as it gives delight because of the particular way of ordering the words which makes it easer to be memorised.
- It is more fruitful knowledge than anything else as it teaches and moves everyone towards virtue.
What is Sidney’s response to Poetry is the mother of lies?
- Sidney responses by saying that the poet never claims to be truthful therefore one cannot say that they lie, whereas the merit of a historian hangs upon their claim towards being truthful and factual about their writings.
- A poet talks about what should be instead of what is, writing allegorically and figuratively.
What does Sideny say about “Poetry abuses men’s wit towards sinful activities and lustful love.”
- Sidney blames those poets who use poetry for ulterior motives than to teach and delight, and abuse their art.
- Poetry doesn’t abuse men, but men abuse poetry
- Sidney says that “neither philosopher nor historiographer, could at the first have entered into the gates of popular judgments if they had not taken a great passport of poetry”.
- His response is directed towards the attack on Poetry by Gosson that poetry is useless, nurse of abuse. He gives examples of science, philosophy and history which are quite useful and important for our knowledge and education using poetry as a form and method to express information and thoughts effectively.
What does Sidney say about Philosopher are the natural enemy of poetry?
- Plato believed that and that is why he banished poets from his republic.
- Sidney suggests that Plato is talking about the early Greek Poetry of his time rather than poetry itself. He is more concerned about how poets of his time talked about Gods and religion which can corrupt youth.
- But not Christianity has removed that belief.
- Poetry is a divine force, far above man’s wit.
- There are many great men like Aristotle, Alexander, Plutarch and Caesar admired poetry.
What is Sidney’s view on Poetry as an art of imitation?
• Like Aristotle, Sidney believed that poetry is an art of imitation which represents reality in the closest possible way by using metaphors and imagery.
• In the end, the aim of a poet is to teach and delight. It has to be a combination of both and not just one in order to be a great poet.
Three kinds of imitations
- He talks about three kinds of imitation by the poets.
- First, a poet derives from the heavenly maker to create his divine works like what Homer or Orpheus did, and all poets should use poetry for the same purpose. Poetry in using “wit” also shows the perfection that can be achieved by poets, which is restricted because of the original sin.
- The second kind of imitation by the poet deals with philosophical, moral, natural or historical like the works of Cato, Lucretius etc. Here the poets rely more upon the subject itself than their own inventions.
- He favours the third kind of imitation, where the poets do not follow any law but follow their own wit. They imitate to teach and delight and are concerned not about what has happened in the past, but with what is happening and what should happen in the future.
- Therefore, the poet now is free of nature as they are not restricted to any given matter, as they are not concerned about reality but with what might happen in an ideal world.
- The aim, in the end, is moral as they want the readers to achieve goodness, and delight them to appreciate goodness.
What are the main competition of Poetry According to Sidney?
- The main competition for poetry in this respect is moral philosophy and history.
- A moral philosopher believes that what he teaches are directly related to virtue and vice therefore his path of virtue is more direct
- A historian will claim that they teach by giving concrete examples whereas moral philosopher teaches virtue by using “certain abstract considerations”
- There is a third example, that is of a lawyer, who only teaches outwards virtue rather than seeking to change individuals from inside.
- Sidney believes that both Moral philosopher and a historian are not complete as they are one-sided. First only gives perception and the other just gives examples. They are limited to being abstract or general.
- Only a poet can combine both in one, as they mix general notions with particular examples.
- A poet can paint a perfect picture like a philosopher using their abstract insight.
- The teaching provided by poetry is more than philosophy as it has more force than the wordish description of philosophy.
- It is the elite, learned mind which can truly understand philosophy, whereas poetry can be understood by everyone.
- That is why he considers a poet to be the ‘right popular philosopher’,
- Poetry can affect people’s emotions and influence them more that any teaching.
- He believes, like Aristotle that poetry is more philosophical than philosophy and more studiously serious than history.
- Aristotle used the term Kathalou(universal) for poetry dealing with probability and necessity (ought to be) and Kathekaston(particular) for history, dealing with what happened in reality (what is)
- He believes that unlike historians who is tied to reality without having any liberty to present what should be the ideal way a person behaves; a poet can present a character in history as the way she or he should be portrayed.
- A poet can make things more beautiful and delightful than they actually are.
- A poet should be given the laurel crown as victorious not just of the historians but also the philosophers as he is allowed to have the freedom to portray virtue in her best colours by choosing the appropriate material and patterns that are ideal.
- He wants to overturn the hierarchy of knowledge by placing the poet over all the sciences.
- Poetry for him should remove theology as it makes the man overcome lower nature and he has the access to God.
- Sidney considers Heroic poetry to be the best as it instructs the mind and most inflames the mind with the desire to be worthy.
- Function of poetry: to teach people virtue, to move people towards virtuous action and to make them aware of the worthlessness of mundane life.
- Poet is a preacher apart.
About Essay on Dramatic Poesy?
Essay on Dramatic Poesy by John Dryden
• Written in 1666 when London theatres were getting closed due to plague.
• The essay is in a dialogue form. Four friends are discussing about different aspects of British and Classical theatre on the river Thames.
• Neander represented Dryden, and rest of them presented other point of views prevalent among different critics during the period of restoration.
• They were resting on a barrage when there was a naval battle between England and Dutch taking place.
What was the view of the four critics on what is a play?
• They all agreed that a play is a
A just and lively Image of Humane Nature, representing its Passions and Humors, and the Changes of Fortune to which it is subject; for the Delight and Instruction of Mankind.
Who do the four critics support in Essay on Dramatic Poesy?
- Crites is in support of the classical ones. They were the ones who developed drama under Aristotle and Horace.
- Lisideius is in favour of the French Dramatists and doesn’t like the way the English Dramatists do not adhere to one fix genre and combine different genres.
- Eugenius attacks the Roman and Greek dramatists while being supportive of the English ones.
- Neander favours the Moderns but also respects the Classicals.
- He believes that Tragi-comedy is the best kind of theatre.
What are Crites’s view on Drama?
- Crites believes that the Modern writers imitate Ancient Classical writers by using their forms and subjects
- He also believed that the Classical playwrights has a special greatness in the genre of Drama and they were almost perfect.
- These playwrights were most honoured in their era and there were competitions organized where they were rewarded according to their merit by the judges of high repute.
- But in England, instead of honour or healthy competition there is only malice and criticism.
- Crites believes that it takes a lot of work to imitate the Ancients encouragement is needed for that. Nature is not represented properly in the way the Ancient used to observe and present in their plays.
- England is indebted to the Ancients for learning the rules of Drama, Symmetry of the plot or episodic ornaments, but didn’t really improve upon it.
- He also says that the Moderns don’t follow the Three unities.
- Unity of time: English plays don’t stick to that and uses long period of time.
- Unity of Place: The English plays go all over the place and not stick one location or even one city.
- Unity of Action: English plays have several sub-plots and doesn’t stick one great and complete action.
What does Eugenius believe about Drama?
• Eugenius replies Crites by saying that he cannot think of his country with such negativity. English poets are many times equal to the Ancients and in some matters even surpass them. Even the Ancients were Modern in comparison to the writers before them. He then asks to limit the discussion to one particular genre of Poetry
• Crites accepts that and suggests to limit the dialogue to Dramatic Poetry.
• Eugenius gives examples of great writers like Sir John Suckling and Mr. Waller who wrote court writings much better than the Ancients, or Mr Abraham Cowley.
• About Italian, French and Spanish Plays he believed English Plays have been and are far better than them.
• He says that the Moderns have learnt from the Ancients but have surpassed them by not just blind imitation but drawing from Nature and life before us instead of mere lines of the Ancients. He then illustrates the shortcomings of Ancients.
Greek Poesy was not perfect, as they didn’t divide them into acts and we cannot understand it. We only are aware of the singing of their chorus which were quite repetitive.
• Aristotle had divided Plot into: Protasis: Entrance of the characters; Epitatis, or working up of the plot’ Catastasis or counterturn which destroys our expectations from the plays and makes you hopeless about any finality; and Catastrophe, (in French Le Denouement) which is the unravelling of the plot.
• The moderns divide acts into scenes, therefore are quite good at dividing the play. Spanish writers used to divide plays into three acts and although their characterisation was good, their imitation of nature was not good.
• For Ancients, he says that they didn’t have too much action but more narration. They used monologue instead of dialogue to impart information about a scene, which was quite boring.
• The Ancients didn’t observe the three unities properly. Euripides committed several absurd acts although he was good with unity of time.
• There is no poetic justice in their plays, it didn’t end with punished vices and giving rewards to the virtues. Instead, the villains used to get rich and the good souls were facing unhappiness.
• They used lust, cruelty, murder etc as themes that aroused terror instead of pity. Their showing of love was never as good as Shakespeare or Fletcher.
• Ancients followed these rules effectively and organize their plays well. Their language was elegant but we cannot appreciate the nuances as the languages are dead now.
What does Lisideius think about Drama?
• He favours French Drama over English and the Ancients. He believes that the earlier generation of Beaumont, Jonson, and Fletcher were great, but the current generation is not good. The French dramatist Corneille is better than any contemporary dramatist in England.
• French Dramatists follow the ancient playwrights as they follow the three unities properly. Their plays are not heavy in the plot, having one single action, within a particular limited time.
• English introduce unnecessary conflicts resulting in action which is not coherent with the original plot and they are not even logical in many cases.
• He doesn’t like English Drama because of Tragic-comedy, which he thinks is absurd as it doesn’t follow the three unities at all.
There is no Theatre in the world has any thing so absurd as the English Tragicomedy, ’tis a Drama of our own invention, and the fashion of it is enough to proclaim it so, here a course of mirth, there another of sadness and passion; a third of honor, and fourth a Due
• Plots in French Drama is based on truth mixed with fiction and are adapted beautifully for the theatre. However, Dramatists like Shakespeare do not do anything new with the material for theatre.
• Drama should resemble the reality as much as it is possible and the French follow that rule, the English don’t.
• As far as the characterisation goes French do not neglect other characters which is how it happens in reality, while the English emphasize more on one or two major characters.
• Narration is better in French and not dull or boring. They don’t use scenes where there is a lot of bloodshed and violence as it may create horror in the minds of the audience. English on the other hand, use these scenes quite often. The French also avoid death scenes as it would never look real.
What are the views of Neander?
• English dramatists are best at “the lively imitation of nature” or human nature. French poesy is only as beautiful as an statue.
For the lively imitation of Nature being in the definition of a Play, those which best fulfill that law ought to be esteemed superior to the others.
• There is always surprise in English plays which teaches and entertains us. He believes that English plays are more real and we are suspending our disbelief therefore, it is good to show blood on stage the way it is seen in reality.
• When the English Dramatists violate the three unities that help them to feel more like reality, unlike French theatre where the unities restricts them in doing that. In order to become a just and lively picture of human nature unities shouldn’t always be followed. Ex. Shakespeare’s plays.
• Ben Jonson followed the unites and was good in doing that in his The Silent Woman
• As for as unity of action, sub-plots add variety to a play and makes it more real.
• It is all about dramatic illusion, and unities, when disregarded in a control and probable way which is not beyond the imagination of the audience, can lead to a better connection with the audience.
• He favours Tragi-comedy as it provides contraries that set each other off and gives a variety in the monotonous straightforward tragedy.
• The serious effect of tragedy doesn’t get diluted by the mixing the two things.
• It brings contrast to the play, a sad scene can refresh us from continuous comic representation, and when a comic scene happens after a sad scene, it satisfies the audience more.
• Aristotle would have revisited his works if he had seen tragi-comedies.
What are their views on Rhyme?
Crites advocates against the use of rhyme while favouring the blank verse over that. He believes that it should never be used in tragedy or epics, but can be used for comic effect. It doesn’t sound great in plays, as the plays are about dialogues and people do not always speak in rhyme. Blank verse is closer to the real speech and Aristotle had said that:
”Tis best to write Tragedy in that kind of verse which is the least such, or which is nearest Prose: and this amongst the Ancients was the Iambique, and with us is blank verse.”
Neander Rhyme can be said in a natural way by using run-on-lines and manipulation of pauses and stresses and change in meter.
Blank verse is poetic prose and should not to be considered as verse. Only rhyme is perfect for Tragedy as it is also used by all the nations.
Moderns cannot use blank verse the way earlier dramatists used them, and therefore should use rhyme instead.
Rhyme is suited for tragedy represents nature in a serious way, it suites Tragedy and not comedy. It gives us more pleasure to listen to rhyme.