Denys - secondary reading Flashcards

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Evans on the distinction between cataphatic and apophatic

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o Mystical theology
♣ Distinction between cataphatic and apophatic
♣ ‘they do no more than to reflect the two sides of the life of the cosmos and the human individual, in the characteristic Neoplatonic motif of procession from God’s creative activity, and return to God in contemplation’ (188)
♣ sets out ‘the way of unknowing which leads beyond all created reality to this union with the divine itself’ (190)
♣ descent through assertion
• begins with God, moves along creation into ‘ever-greater multiplicity’ (190)
♣ ascent via negation
• begins with diversity of life
• denies that we can describe God
• moves up chain of being to God
• ‘in the last chapter, the great affirmations of Christian faith are dealt with – God is Life, Light, Love….and so on – and these too are all denied: they are not true. This rejection of all the precious truths of Scripture is a breathtaking demonstration of the stripping-off of all comforts to the self’ (190)
• we get to the point where we have run out of words – God is beyond description
• need to go beyond
• unknowing is not the same as ignorance
• mind is carried beyond itself

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Evans - themes in denys

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♣	beyondness of God 
♣	anagogy (ascent)
♣	hierarchy
♣	divinisation
♣	apophasis 
♣	unknowing
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evans - how D shows God’s transcendence

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♣ Utterly transcendent
♣ He ‘expresses this with the Neoplatonic philosophers’ trick of prefixing words with “hyper” – he thus modifies a huge number of terms to express the excessive divinity, its sheer bursting of the boundaries of all that we can think’ (188)
♣ God = above all knowledge.
♣ ‘all the things which we are able to think and say of God need ultimately to be unthought and unsaid’ (188)
♣ cannot know him through any names
♣ ‘Yet D’s language is of the “beyondness” of God, not of transcendence as opposed to immanence; and therefore, in a typical paradox, the divine which is beyond all duality transcends even the duality of transcendence and immanence, is known in all created works, and called by every name’ (188)

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evans on anagogy (ascent)

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♣ recalls Gregory of Nyssa’s notion of epectasis – constant yearning for God
♣ can happen through engagement with Scripture
♣ need to recognise that all divine images are inadequate
♣ sacraments, discipleship
♣ can only achieve union with God through self-renunciation

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Evans on accusations made of D

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o Accused of heresy/pantheism

o Also accused of ‘cloaking…an explicitly pagan philosophy in Christian robes’ (192)

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Coakley and stang on key parts of D

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o Marriage of neo-Platonism and Christianity
o Intertwining of divine and human eros
o Hierarchical cosmos
o ‘ecclesiastical anchoring in acts of liturgical praise’ (532)
o emphasis on union with God via contemplation

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Louth on D and adopting Proclus terms

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  • ‘In introducing the terminology of apophatic and cataphatic theology Dionysius was simply introducing a terminology for an already well-established approach to theology. He did not invent this terminology, however, but borrowed (like much else) from the great fifth-century Neoplatonist, Proclus (410 or 412–85), diadochos (i.e., Plato’s successor) at the Academy at Athens.’ (139)
  • ‘The Neoplatonists, led by Plotinus, found a good deal more apophatic theology in the Platonic dialogues than scholars do nowadays (or indeed, did their predecessors, the so-called Middle Platonists), notably in the latter section of the Parmenides concerned with the consequences of positing or denying the One. But it fell to Proclus to introduce the terminology of apophatic and cataphatic theology.’ (139)
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louth on proclus

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o The One can be revealed ‘through analogy’, likeness and negations
o Plato uses analogy of sun in Republic (506D-509C)
o Parmenides uses apophaticism
o ‘Proclus goes on to warn against interpreting the negations (apophaseis) as privations (stereseis), or the analogies as identities’ (140)
o ‘The analogies, he says, are hints or suggestions that point us toward the One, while the negations do not simply contradict affirmations (here Proclus uses the word kataphasis), rather, because they are closer to the first principle, they, as it were, underlie and generate affirmations.’ (140)
o need both apophatic and cataphatic
- ‘Dionysius also emphasizes, as Proclus does, that negations applied to God do not mean that God lacks some quality or another, but that he transcends it. He expresses this conviction by supplementing adjectives prefixed by the alpha-privative with adjectives prefixed by hyper- (“beyond”).’ (140)

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turner on apophasis

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o ‘apophasis is a Greek neologism for the breakdown of speech, which, in face of the unknowability of God, falls infinitely short of the mark’ (20)

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turner on cataphasis

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o ‘For in its cataphatic mode, theology is, we might say, a kind of verbal riot, an anarchy of discourse in which anything goes.’ (20)

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turner on mystical theology and apophasis

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We must both affirm and deny all things of God; and then we must negate the contradiction between the affirmed and the denied.’ (22)

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turner on negation of negation

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o the negation of the negation is ‘not a third utterance, additional to the affirmative and the negative, in good linguistic order; it is not some intelligible synthesis of affirmation and negation; it is rather the collapse of our affirmation and denials into disorder, which we can only express, a fortiori, in bits of collapsed, disordered language, like the babble of a Jeremiah.’ (22)
o for D, religious language = rightly paradoxical

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turner on creation

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  • ‘Consequently, from the fact that we name God from his effects - and are justified in doing so because he is their cause - it does not follow that the names of God signify only that causality.’ (24)
    ‘to name God adequately, we not only may, but must, name God by all the names of creatures: only the ‘sum total of creation’
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turner on linguistic inadequacy - patriarchal language

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o contemp example = patriarchal language used to describe God
♣ why this is wrong for D
• ‘An exclusive use of male descriptions is…a misdescription of God by exclusion, since it rules out the ascription to God of the names distinctive of half her human creation.’ (25)
• God is not the type of being to have a gender
♣ H, cannot be both male and female
• ‘Hence, if God has to be described in both ways, then he cannot possibly be either male or female; and if God is neither, then also she cannot possibly be a ‘person* in any sense we know of, for every person we know of is one or the other. It is in the collapse of ordinary language, brought to our attention by the necessity of ascribing incompatible attributes, that the transcendence of God above all language is best approached.’ (26)

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turner on hierarchy

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o ontological distance/proximity – existence = a scale of reality
♣ no longer think of existence hierarchically
♣ more dichotomous now – you exist or you don’t
• hierarchy determined degrees of reality
• this can be seen in degrees of distance from creator, which ultimately determines degrees of reality
o ‘creation is the erotic outpouring of the divine goodness into all things’ (29)
o ‘Corresponding with this picture of the outflow of all beings in creation, in their multiplicity and differentiation, is Denys’ picture of the tendency and flow of affirmative language about God.’ (29)
- ♣ God is the top of the hierarchy of existence/beings, but all creatures have same immediacy with God
♣ ‘So we are now presented with an aporia. The tendency of the hierarchical scale of ontological degrees, and the ‘anti-hierarchical’ tendency of the doctrine of creative immediacy, certainly appear to pull Denys’ thought in opposed directions. Moreover, the tension between them may seem to be heightened by the fact that both seem to Denys to be necessary within an adequate theology.’ (31)
• conflict between creation ex nihilo and our ‘hierarchically ordered theological language, constructed on a scale of degrees of descriptive adequacy’ (31)

aka: God is at top of hierarchy but no ontological distinction (discuss in relation to creatio ex nihilo. idea of emanation seems in tension with this)

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turner on God likeness to creatures

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o ‘Denys sees that the relation of distance between God and creatures must be asymmetrical. Creatures may be more or less ‘like’ God. But there cannot be any respect at all in which God is ‘like’ any creature. Creatures may be nearer or further away from God ontologically; but there cannot be any degrees of proximity in which God stands to different creatures. God cannot even be, as we were tempted to say just now, equidistant from all creatures, for God is not and cannot be in any kind of relation of distance to any creature whatsoever.’ (32)

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turner on shift in MT

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  • in MT, there is an ‘ascending scale of denials…which…constructs a ladder of negations from the denial that the ‘Cause of all’ is material to the denial that it either exists or that it does not exist’ (33)
  • shift in last 2 chapters of MT
    o apophatic = hierarchical ascent
    o ‘First it denies the ‘dissimilar’ images, then the most similar, denying each affirmation in turn before denying the next.’ (34)
    o contrasts with previous apophaticism as ‘the product of a properly understood cataphaticism’ (33)
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turner - difference between negative propositions and negating the propositional

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  • ‘For there is a very great difference between the strategy of negative propositions and the strategy of negating the propositional between that of the negative image and that of the negation of imagery. The first of each of these pairs belongs to the cataphatic in theology, and only the second is the strategy of the apophatic. It is my view that Denys is clear about this in practice, but lacks the conceptual and logical tools in which to state the grounds on which the distinction is to be made. Like most Platonists, he lacks an adequate appreciation of the logic of metaphors.’ (35)

Whilst an Aristotelian approach to negation would hold that if we are to take names for God literally, their contradictories must also be true, this is only the case if all ‘perceptual’ names of God are deemed literal utterances. To say that God is infinite, for instance, is not to simply state the opposite of the affirmation that God is finite, but rather requires a recognition that ‘God transcends the difference between similarity and difference’.

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turner - difference between Aristotle and Densy

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  • the ‘effect of conveying the transcendence of God beyond both metaphors can be produced only on the conditions both that they are (in an Aristotelian sense) opposed to one another and that, albeit opposed, they are simultaneously affirmed.’ (38)
    o ‘Apophatic denial is indeed not ‘Aristotelian negation’. But it presupposes it’ (38)
  • ‘the negations of the ‘perceptual’ names of God do not, therefore, consist in the replacement of one set of literal affirmations with their ‘Aristotelian’ negations, nor do they consist in the substitution of negative images for affirmative. They consist in the negations of the negations between metaphors, so as to transcend the domain of metaphorical discourse itself, of both affirmative and negative, in the sense in which to negate is not to deny the truths which that discourse is capable of conveying, but is to denote their limitation.’ (38-9)
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turner - ascent and contrasts

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o ‘The progress of the mind towards God ascends from complexity of image to simplicity, from many names in potential conflict to abstract and increasingly interchangeable names, from ‘dissimilar’ to ‘similar’ similarities, from prolixity to terseness and, ultimately, to silence. As the mind ascends through the hierarchy of language, it moves therefore, from that which is most distinct from God to that which is progressively less obviously so, from the more ‘unlike’ to the more ‘like’.’ (44)
o god is more like a spirit than rock for example
o with the elimination of these comparisons, contrasts are also eliminated
o moving towards simplicity requires a differentiation between similarity and difference themselves

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turner - legacy

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♣ raised questions regarding ‘an agenda of substantive theological and conceptual issues’ (47)
♣ intellectualism – emphasis on ascent of the mind
• ascent is guided by eros of knowing – passion for vision of God
• emphasis on knowing and unknowing
• idea of soul’s journey to God as ascent later seen in Bonaventure
♣ relationship between Denys and Augustine

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louth on denys and Gregory of Nysa

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  • like Gregory of Nyssa, D compares ascent of soul using analogy of Moses’ ascent to holy mount
    o apophatic way can only happen with purified soul
    o sense of ecstasy when the soul ‘goes out of itself and is united with the divine’ (169)
    o the soul is torn out of itself – emphasizes unitive aspect, soul = object of love
    o God also responds with ecstatic love
    o Apophatic theology emphasizes inward movement of soul to God
    o ‘the soul is involved both in God’s manifestation outwards through the soul and also in her own movement inwards into God; and the two are indissolubly linked’ (171)
    this is achieved through the ‘apophatic, mystical union with God’
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louth and polytheism

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o However, important for D to avoid charges of polytheism due to doctrine of emanation (emphasized fundamental difference between Being of God and creatures)
♣ He does this through:
• Qualifying emanation through stating that being comes from god alone
• Doctrine of divine names becomes doctrine of divine attributes
o Sense of scale of being – linked to illumination
o For D, ‘the world is a theophany, a manifestation of God, in which beings closer to God manifest God to those further away’ (85)
o Xian faith = assumed
o D diverges from neo-platonism in his view of God as ‘being itself’ and the source of ‘being itself’

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louth, denys and moses

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  • MT: D describes Moses’ ascent of Mount Sinai
  • ‘Denys is speaking of a contemplative union with God, where the soul abandons forms of prayer that rely on imagery and reasoning…and learns an openness to God himself in the darkness of the abandonment of techniques within its control’ (101)
  • MT = addressed to Timothy (a hierarch)
  • Suggests liturgical context
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louth on hierarchy

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  • Hierarchy = way to God/union with God
    o H, this is ultimately limited as it would therefore imply that some are distanced from God
    o Hierarchy for D is purely to describe the idea of ascent of the soul to God
    o ‘his hierarchies are static: they are not ladders up which one climbs…the hierarchies seem to mediate union with God and deification by their existence, not by their finally being folded up as one reaches the top’ (106)
  • differs from neo-platonism as hierarchies only mediate divine revelation, not being
  • apophaticism = key to relationship with God
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louth on negative and mystical

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  • ‘perhaps one should make a separation between ‘negative theology’ and ‘mystical theology’: negative theology remaining a matter of human understanding, while mystical theology is a matter of surrender to the dark ray of divine light’ (107)
    o However, D does not separate them
    o Mystical theology = passive state of submission to God, involves immediate relationship
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fisher on ontological separation

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o no ontological separation between God and creation. ‘Dionysius here departs cosmologically, cosmogonically, and ontologically from the Plotinian-Proclean Neoplatonic tradition, according to which a procession of emanations mediates between the transcendent unity of the One and the multiplicity of material reality’ (531)

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fisher and risk of nihilism

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o the end of MT is a negation of negation and affirmation – beyond every assertion and beyond every denial
o we are reduced to silence – risk of nihilism
o ‘Dionysius avoids both nihilism and totalism (where he risks both) by inverting the relationship between affirmation and negation, such that, whereas the negative had been seen as relative to affirmation, affirmation is now seen to rest on a hypernegation, which indeed provides the very possibility of affirmation while simultaneously undercutting any final authority it might have’ (540)
o ‘God as beyond infinity represents the hypernegation of divine infinity, which gestures beyond even God’s unknowability. We cannot even comprehend God’s incomprehensibility.’ (542)
- ‘The hymn or prayer, then, as, for example, that which opens the Mystical Theology, does not bring negation to ground in affirmation. On the contrary, we bring to bear the analysis given earlier in this chapter of hypernegation and say rather that the hymn marks off theological discourse (broadly understood to include the hierarchies and hierarchical ritual) as that most likely to be grounded. This delineation allows Dionysius to deconstruct that language clearly and explicitly, so that the ultimate failure of the hymn in hypernegation is unmistakable’ (547)

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rené roques on negative theology

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“negations doubles,”

neither our affirmations nor our negations are adequate in conveying God’s transcendence.

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mcfague risk of idolatry

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o Religious language becomes quickly idolatrous when we forget transcendence of God – language becomes meaningless when we forget divine immanence in our lives
o Primary context for discussion of religious language = worship
♣ Need to feel divine immanence to appreciate images of God as father etc.

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Nicholas slash on anthropomorphism

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o Everything we say about God comes from the realm of human language that God created. ‘In this sense, everything that is said of God, whether by affirmation or denial, is anthropomorphically expressed’ (15)
o It is no less anthropomorphic if language becomes more abstract
♣ Quite the opposite – ‘the entire Bible bears witness to the fact that the imagery of the poet and the storyteller is better fitted than the abstractions of the philosopher to express the relations that obtain between the Holy One and the creation which He convenes and calls into His presence’ (15)
o Just because anthropomorphic language is more understandable does not mean it gets closer to describing God

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Nicholas slash on silence

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  • ‘the more conscious we become of the depths of our unknowing…God becomes more unknown, not less, the more we understand Him’ (76)
    o this is educated ignorance