Danielle Allen & Cicero Flashcards
the characteristics of good friendship- cicero
Mutual/ the same interests
mutual goodwill and affection
moral goodness
holding them accountable
criticisms (offer and recieve)
the characteristics of good friendship- allen
Your extended/ second self
reciprocity
emotional attachment
equitable self interest
awareness to our interests
Trust
sacrifice
vulnerability
the characteristics of bad friendship- Cicero
unreliability
calculated speaking
hypocrisy
transforming personality
no mutual interests
bad person- no moral goodness
the characteristics of bad friendship- allen
Rivalrous self interest-
keeping tabs on them
always giving
the purpose of friends- cicero
make good times better and bad times less bad.
someone to be there for you
friendship is for its own sake
comes from nature- nature more shows kinship
the purpose of friends- allen
second-self relationships
we need friends- cattle argument
we chose to live in large communities
converts RSI into ESI
preserves all relationships
what threatens friendship?- cicero
Aging, misfortune, money, the changing of political views, asking the other to perform an immoral act
what threatens friendship?- allen
one controlling all decisions
RSI
Not having vulnerability or sacrifice
The relationship B/w friendship and a good society- cicero
take away friendship and society cant stand, when everyone doesnt trust another then there will be division and hurt and the community will fall.
The relationship B/w friendship and a good society-allen
the legal system doesn’t have its own restrain, the relationships we form do.
we chose to live in large communities, friendship practices empathy, concern and trust, 3 things that democracy needs to be successful.
why according to laelius (cicero) can friendships last long times
Having the same interests, views and aims.
sharing both public and private lives together
basically understanding everything about the other.
how does laelius define friendship?
a feeling about everything we have and dont have, friendship is strengthened by our affection for one another and the goodwill we have.
Why is friendship only possible between good men?
You do not befriend someone when you see them as a bad person. you are drawn to the good in others, that is why you befriend them.
What are the qualities of a good man?
loyalty
honesty
fairness
generosity
unflinching integrity
why is friendship more powerful than kinship?
kinship is in surplus, we do not choose our family, it can also exist without goodwill. friends are selective, exist only with goodwill and exist in very few.
what are the benefits of friendship?
memories of you to continue after death
good times better and the bad times less bad through dividing and sharing the burden.
What is equitable self interest?
through helping your friends you are helping yourself- acting in your own self-interest.
What is rivalrous self interest?
Putting your own interests above anyone else’s.
why do we need sacrifice for friendship?
willingly making yourself vulnrable.
your sacrifice for your friends becomes your sacrifice for yourself.
Why is it reciprocity and not giving that is important.
by just giving you are not making yourself vulnerable or sacrificing anything therefore you are not giving up power and your ‘sacrifice’ isn’t a sacrifice.
how does the notion of equitable self interest (ESI) to translate the sphere of our relationships with strangers?
things that make you a good friend, make you a good citizen. cattle agreement
what four faculties does allen identify as being foundational to acting equitably?
a. we all benefit by benefitting eachother
b. Know that rivalrous self interest is the main cause for the fail of democracy.
c. We need to have the give and take ideology (reciprocity) and make this our habits.
d. Show goodwill towards strangers, others and society.
according to allen, why is friendship particularly well-placed as a model for developing the habits of good citizenships?
we value friendships and relationships and not simply meeting to eat, we love being social with others. This is why we made the society we live in today. it is a well model because friends oblige reciprocity which develops a system of trust and agreement.
possible critisms for cicero
how far should we go for our friends?
