[Daf 12] Tzifta de'assa,...

Question 1

Describe “shtikuta dele’achar ma’ot” in the context of kiddushin

Explain the two sides of the argument

Answer 1

The man proposes some time after the giving of the kessef, and the woman remains silent. Does this mean she accepts or “lo ichpat lah”?

Kiddushin 12b; Rashi dh Havyah shtika etc.

Question 2

What’s the classic case of shtikuta dele’achar ma’ot?

Answer 2

Tzifta de’asa (myrtle mat). Man gives it to woman, worth less than shaveh prutah. After, he proposes with the 4 zuz hidden inside, and the woman remains silent.

Kiddushin 12b

Question 3

What is the basic halacha of shtikuta dele’achar ma’ot?

Is it kiddushin or not?

Answer 3

It has no effect (lav klum hi)

Meimra of Rava

Kiddushin 12b

Question 4

What is the chumra of R’ Huna berei de R’ Yehoshua re. shtika dele’achar ma’ot?

Distinguish between two types of cases

Answer 4

The fact that she didn’t throw the item (myrtle mat) to the ground, proves that she in fact wants kiddushin - she therefore needs get.

Only where she received the item in a non-kiddushin way (pikadon), the fact that she didn’t throw item to ground is b/c she’d have to pay for it as she’s a shomer(et). Her silence can be taken as refusal - no get required.

Kiddusin 13a