Bioelectricity Flashcards
How do you find the intracellular membrane potential?
We use two electrodes to this both found in a needle
You have one electrode which impales the membrane of a cell, as it goes into the intracellular fluid and measures the membrane potential
This is in reference to the second electrode in the water bath which has a membrane potential of zero. This water bath is found further back in the needle.
for most cells you have a membrane potential of -70mv
What is the difference between the patch clamp technique and the technique to find the intracellular membrane potential of a cell?
- The patch clamp technique tells you the current going through ion channels whereas the intracellular method tells you the cells membrane potential
- The tip to measure the intracellular membrane potential is much smaller than the tip used in the patch clamp. The patch tip = 1x 10^-6 whereas the intracellular tip is much smaller
- The tip for the intracellular membrane is also very sharp and pieces the cell membrane unlike the patch clamp technique. In the tip you need a highly concentrated salt solution.
What affects membrane potential?
The unequal distributions of ions
And the different selections of ions like sodium and potassium
Remember there is less sodium in the cell than outside
And there is more potassium inside the cell than out
What is the intracellular concentration of sodium and potassium maintained by?
The NA+ / K+ ATPase
What are some characteristics of the sodium potassium ATPase and what happens to the net charge of the cell because of it?
The ATPase contributes roughly 20% of resting membrane potential of cell
The transporter is electrogenic - deals with ions
Every time there is an exchange of 3 sodium ions OUT of the cell and two potassium ions IN you get a net loss of one positive charge.
What happens when you block a sodium potassium atpase
If you block the ATPase the charge of the cell thus goes up quickly. From -70mV to -56mV.
This causes there to be a slower change in membrane potential overtime
If you block the ATPase you eventually get rid of the membrane potential= it stops the cell from functioning
Why? This is mainly because the driving forces for ion channels are altered so they no longer work how they should do.
How do potassium ion channels (this isnt talking about ATPases) maintain the membrane potential?
So remember the concentration of potassium ions in the cell is high and outside they are low
So there is a concentration gradient of potassium ions out of the cell
However as potassium ions move out of the cell it causes the intracellular charge to decrease and become more negative
this is amplified by anions which are negative which stay inside the intracellular, decreasing membrane potential…
this decrease in potential occurs for a small while
As potassium ion channels work they make the membrane potential of a cell decrease as positive potassium ions are lost when the potassium ions follow their gradient out of the cell.
What happens after a while of the charge in the cell decreasing?
There becomes a positive potential gradient for potassium ions to move back into the cell along a voltage potential gradient. As it is more negative inside, potassium ions move back into the cell
What happens to the overall net charge of potassium ions in a cell when the number of potassium ions leaving (Along a concentration gradient) is equal to those returning (along a voltage gradient)
There is no overall net charge and no net flow
What type of leak do potassium ion channel have?
A slight sodium ion leak
What is the Nernst potential?
This is when the amount of sodium in and out of the cell is equal in rate of ions moving in and out
There is no current and this makes a set membrane potential
What is the nernst equation and what does everything mean?
Eion = RT/zF x Ln [ion in] / [ion out]
Note E ion means the nernst potential of a single ion.
R = gas constant this is usually always 61.5! T = temp in K Z = valence = the charge of the ion so if calcium it would be plus two F = faradays constant Ln = log base 10
Remember in all equations you need to be working in the SAME units and to WRITE the units down!
Example: at body temp the IC of potassium was 145mm and EC was 6mm. What is the Nernst potential?
Eion = RT/zF x Ln [ion in] / [ion out]
-85mv
Zf = charge of ion = +1 for potassium
RT is always 61.5
How to tell if there is more sodium or potasssium ion channels in the membrane of a cell using nernst potentials?
Look at membrane potential
Looks at nernst potentials of both ions
Look to see if the membrane potential is more similar to the nernst potential of sodium or potassium. Whichever the membrane potential is most similar to means there are more of those ions.
Nernst for sodium = 60mv
Nernst for potassium = 90mV
Goldman equation. What does this tell us?
- learn this its quite easy to apply:
Vm = RT/Zf log PNa[Na out] + pk[k out] / pNA [NA in] + [k in]
This tells us the how the membrane potential is affected by multiple ions i.e. sodium and potassium. Not just how the potential changes for one ion.
Note in this equation pk means permability!
So you could have permeability of sodium of 2 and 150 mM of sodium moves out
This would be 2x[50] for the pNa [NA out] part.
You then log this equation.