anesthesia for selec. proced. 3/3 Flashcards
How do you do lung separation on a patient with a difficult airway?
- awake intubation with FOB (fiber optic bronchoscope) to place DLT, univent or standard ETT
- then tube exchanger PLUS direct laryngoscopy
- or fogarty embolectomy catheter as a bronchial blocker
what do you do for OLV if the patient has a trach?
DLTs are not designed for stomas, try a bronchial blocker passed thru or alongside a conventional or wire reinforced (anode)ETT
what is the rule of thumb for airways post procedure (especially when having to change over a DLT for a standard single ETT)?
the airway can alsways change (d/t fluid overload, swelling, facial edema, secretions or laryngeal trauma (from first attempted intubation).
- why is a single lumen ETT sometimes used as an effective bridge?
- what must you ensure before you attempt the exchange?
because the DLT is very stiff, so if you can place a normal ETT, you can exchange it for a DLT with a FOB (or tube exchanger).
2. test to make sure the DLT can pass over the exchanger (and that the surgeon is ok with using an exchanger (boogie is sometimes too big- a cook is usually the right size).
–why are bronchial blockers not to be used for conditions such as pulmonary alveolar proteinosis treatment (unilateral bronchopulmonary lavage) ?
in other words, what are the drawbacks of bronchial blockers?
- because blockage may not be optimal
- can easily dislodge
- harder to place properly
- unable to suction distall
- high pressure/ low volume cuff (greater chance of bronchial damage/ ischemia).
what can you use to place a DLT in a difficult airway?
glidescope
can you use a bronchial blocker with a VATS?
absolutely NOT!
VATS is an absolute indication because you need a quiet and deflated lung (DLT is necessary).
- what lung procedures would you want to leave a patient intubated post surgery?
- why?
- what can be done if you cannot exchange the tube (for a single ETT) and thus have to leave the patient intubated on a DLT?
1a. complex lung resections
- -b. thoracoabdominal esophagectomy
- -c. thoracic aortic aneurysmectomy
- -d. extensive vertebral tumor resection
2. d/t facial edema, secretions and hemoptysis
3. may have to send patient to AICU with a DLT (with the 2 part “Y” piece, extra long suction catheters and instructions and alot of reassurance).
- what can you do with a DLT to make it a single ETT?
- what is a major drawback?
- if you have to replace the DLT, how could it be done?
pull it back until the bronchial lumen is above the carina. You can use the bronchial lumen as a single ETT.
- it will be hanging out ALOT!!! it can be confusing for staff that is unfamiliar.
- If you replace a DLT with a single ETT, do it under direct visualization (glide or DLT).
for a bronchoscopy; what is it vital that you do pre-op?
a THOROUGH PATIENT EVALUATION (this procedure can go bad quickly and turn into a thoracotomy or sternotomy)
bronchoscopy:
what type of monitors?
- ecg
- nibp
- procordial
- spo2
- art line, central line or swan (as needed for patient history/condition)
what should all lung procedures get pre op or at induction?
drying agent (robinol)
- what are common local anesthetics for bronchoscopy?
2. name some methods by which they are administered:
- lidocaine, tetracaine
- nebulizer
- viscous lido gargle
- pledgets in piriform fossa bilat
- trans tracheal block
- spray vocal cords under DL
- precutaneous block of superior laryngeal or glossopharyngeal (mouth)
- cocaine and neo to nose (nasal intubation)
- what must you consider with all local anesthetics?
- what must you monitor for with any local to throat?
- what should one of the post op orders be?
- calculate total dose and toxic dose
- all of these blocks depress airway protective reflexes (high risk for aspiration post op)
- NPO for several hours post op
GENERAL VS. LOCAL
- which is better?
- advantages of local & general
- disadvantages of local & general
- they are often used in combination
- advantages of local: patient is breathing spontaneously, awake, coopertive
- –advantages of general: controlled ventilation - disadvantages of local: dont tolerate bleeding, sometimes uncoopertive
- –disadvantages of general: could have exagerated response to NDMR (myasthenic syndrome, eaton lambert)
rigid bronchoscope:
what are 4 way that you get oxygen to the patient?
- apneic oxygenation
- apnea with intermittened ventilation
- sanders injection system
- mechanical ventilation
- HFPPV
apneic oxygenation
- how is it accomplished?
- what are the disadvantages?
- apneic oxygenation (you can supply oxygen at 10-15 L/min for up to 30 min without incident)
- disadvantages: ACTUALLY should be limited to 5 min d/t arrhythmias and respiratory acidosis from CO2 accumulation
- what is apnea with intermittened ventilation?
2. what are disadvantages of this?
- apnea with intermittened ventilation (once eye piece is closed and surgeon is not exploring) you can ventilate the patient
- poor ABG with resp acidosis (if prolonged)