ancient greeks Flashcards
what are the two worlds for Plato
- the material world (the world of appearances)
- the world of the forms
what is the material world like for Plato ?
- consists of physical objects
- it is the world we experience through our senses
- it is in constant change so we can’t know the true reality of it
- we can only have opinions about the reality of this world
- the objects we experience are particulars (a reflection of its perfect form in the world of the forms)
- our knowledge is a prior (knowledge that doesn’t require experience to be know to be true)
explain why Plato thinks we have souls
- we recognise when something is not perfect because we can remember the original ideal since we know the forms innately
- our souls remember the original perfect copies from the world of ideals.
- Socrates used the example of a slave who solved maths problems using Pythagoras theorem even though he had never been taught it
what is the Ancient Greek topic about?
- how do we know ?
- what is real?
what is the world of the forms like ?
- accessed through reasons rather than sense
- nothing changes as this world consist of original perfect ideals
- forms are perfect, eternal and immutable
why did Plato come up with the analogy of the cave
-to show a contrast between people who mistake the physical world for the truth (the prisoners) by relying on their senses, and those who really do see the truth (the philosophers who use their reason)
explain the analogy of the cave in detail
- Prisoners chained in cave so can only see wall in front of them.
- fire behind them which casts shadows on the wall
- people carry objects on the outside of the cave which provide shadows -prisoners assume this is all there is to life, they have no philosophical insight.
- 1 prisoner is set free. Finds it difficult to move and light from sun is dazzling. Illustrating how the first response to philosophical questioning is puzzlement
- he is able to see the real world and draw true conclusions
- he begins to understand that the world depends on the sun for its existence
- when he returns to the cave the prisoners laugh at him and think he is being stupid.
The cave represents how knowledge gained through the senses is misleading
explain the hierarchy of the forms
- the form of good
- justice and beauty
- forms of abstract ideas and mathematical reasoning (considered to be true knowledge gained through reason and understanding)
- material objects and opinion in the world of appearance which is believed through the sense
6 criticisms of platos ideas
- are there forms for bad things? e.g. a nuclear bomb
- there is no empirical evidence of the existence of another world outside of our senses
- if there is one absolute form of the good, why do we disagree over right and wrong? what is good?
- is knowledge really innate like Plato suggests? doesn’t learning seem more difficult than simply remembering.
- the theory of the forms is unclear. We don’t know if each species of plant has its own form, or if there is one form of plant in general
explain Aristotle’s third man argument against platos ideas
- for something to be a perfect form, it must have all the attributes of the being.
- therefore, since it has all the attributes of the being, it would have to BE the being and not just a perfect form of the being.
3 strengths of platos ideas
- argument from rationalism not empiricism. The senses deceive us. E.g. when a pen is in a glass of water it seems bent. True knowledge is accessed through reason alone.
- we do seem to understand what falls short of goodness or have an innate understanding of beauty and justice. E.g. why do we think things are unfair?
- Plato has had a great influence on philosophy -arguments from rationalism. Impacted on chrIstsinjty during the Renaissance.
Brain Davies supports Plato. What does he think?
-without the forms we wouldn’t be able to discuss on general features of the real world, such as beauty or justice, because we would have no recognition of what these particulars look like
for Aristotle knowledge is based on what?
- senses
- empiricism
- a posteriori
- didn’t believe there was too separate worlds but instead that the world we live in is the only place in which we can have true knowledge because it is based on our senses
explain Aristotle’s ideas
- ‘form’ is the structure and characteristic of something
- all things have form (characteristics, structure, or shape) and substance (matter)
what are Aristotle’s four causes
- material cause (what it’s made of)
- formal cause (shape or characteristic)
- efficient cause (how it came into existence)
- final cause (it’s purpose/telos)